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Todd Guide
Joined: 25 Jun 2001 Posts: 13271 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: Hunting Albino Deer |
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What do you think of making it illegal to kill albino deer?
Recently a female hunter in Minnesota killed a beautiful, 6 point albino buck. Well, that hunt sent a flood of people to Southeastern Outdoors's Albino hunting page, and to several people contacting me about whether it was legal to hunt albino deer in Minnesota and other states.
When I made the table, maybe 1-3 years ago, I had sent an e-mail to all 50 game departments asking whether or not it was legal to hunt albino deer, moose, elk. The states where the legality is listed are the states that responded. Minnesota said it was illegal to kill albino's, but okay to kill piebald's.
That's what I had on the table.
Fast forward to the recent Minnesota albino buck killed which sent several people to the site. Most to tell let me know it was legal in Minnesota to hunt albino deer.
I couldn't find my original e-mails so I started digging around.
I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about how to accuratly decifer the MN Sentae web site, but during the 2003-2004 session SF2203 (line 1.14 and 10.29, 10.30) clearly states one of the purposes of the bill is to make the hunting of albino deer illegal
www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/bin/bldbill.php?bill=S2203.1&session=ls83
Then I found this from the National Assembly of Sportsman Caucuses web site which says the bill passed at least part of it's hurdles.
http://www.statesportsmenslink.org/caucus/news/details.cfm?newsid=72
This page states it got approval on 5/19/2004
www.house.leg.state.mn.us/bills/hotlist.asp?ls_year=83&session_number=0
Here is a news paper article that states the dove hunting passed in 2004.
http://www.startribune.com/outdoors/story/1423799.html
So, what happened to the Albino hunting section?
Is anyone fluent enough in MN law to determine what happened to the bill?
Thanks!
Todd _________________ ---------------------------
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Todd Guide
Joined: 25 Jun 2001 Posts: 13271 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I think laws protecting a geneticlly inferior animal are stupid, and counter productive to what our wildlife agencies are SUPPOSED to be doing when managing a species such as deer.
I understand why some people want to protect them more than they do a "normal" deer, they are beautiful, we rarely see them, their uniqueness.
What many of those folks don't realize is they aren't quite as rare as the 1 : 1,000,000 some claim.
Maybe 1 : 1,000,000 make it to adult hood, because the lack of natural caoncealment, the vast majority die from predation at a very young age. Plus, they are often prone to genetic issues. _________________ ---------------------------
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chief joe Tracker
Joined: 29 Apr 2002 Posts: 2219 Location: Great State of Texas!
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Todd wrote: | Personally, I think laws protecting a geneticlly inferior animal are stupid, and counter productive to what our wildlife agencies are SUPPOSED to be doing when managing a species such as deer.
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Weren't some of the concerns and laws a result of Native Americans claiming that the white deer held a spiritually significance to them? _________________ Joe Beran
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Todd Guide
Joined: 25 Jun 2001 Posts: 13271 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| chief joe wrote: | | Todd wrote: | Personally, I think laws protecting a geneticlly inferior animal are stupid, and counter productive to what our wildlife agencies are SUPPOSED to be doing when managing a species such as deer.
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Weren't some of the concerns and laws a result of Native Americans claiming that the white deer held a spiritually significance to them? |
Good question. I know that has been said about buffalo and white bear, not sure about deer though.
I know in Tennessee it was made illegal in 2001 ago when one showed up in the area where a poilitician lived. He pushed through laws to protect it (them) because he didn't want anyone killing the deer he liked to watch. He did so against the wishes of the state wildlife agency (TWRA). _________________ ---------------------------
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Todd Guide
Joined: 25 Jun 2001 Posts: 13271 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently an albino doe was run over in Nashville recently
Albino deer dead on Murray Lane
By ANNE PAINE
Staff Writer
An albino deer was found dead today on Murray Lane in Williamson County, apparently hit by a vehicle.
The body lay near Scales Elementary School not far from Waterford subdivision.
Terra Forest of Franklin, whose photograph of a white deer appeared on The Tennessean Web site this spring, said this was not the same one.
The deer that died appears to be a doe, she said. She has been observing and photographing a male deer in another part of the county near the Harpeth River.
"I'm sorry for that one but I'm relieved it wasn't 'mine,'" she said.
Albino deer can not, by law, be hunted, but there is no penalty if one is accidentally hit by a vehicle, according to Doug Markham, spokesman for the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency. _________________ ---------------------------
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Phil Guide
Joined: 16 Sep 2002 Posts: 1117 Location: Tennessee (today)
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Some hunting laws are just stupid.
In Tennessee you can carry a pistol into Wal-mart but into the woods when bow hunting.
Add not being able to hunt albino anything to the list!  _________________ Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed frequently and for the same reason!!! |
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